Radhiah: I think intimacy of any form is — has always been for me — the utmost privilege, whether it's given or received. And sort of a running joke amongst like, my inner circle of friends is that we're all a little bit 19th century dowager about any kind of familiarity. So if you ever meet someone for the first time, and then they immediately shorten your name, for example, or they go in for a hug, we're all just like, ‘How dare you’. Sort of pearl-clutching behaviour [laughs]. And none of us, we're not sure how — because we're all very different in terms of our upbringings, and backgrounds and stuff — we're not sure how this has happened. And whether there's a bit of a cultural impact as well, because maybe we read the same things growing up, or whatever it may be. But yeah, I think intimacy is — a huge part is [that] familiarity and intimacy is something that’s a privilege, that is earned. It's not freely given. And that governs how you behave towards other people as well as how you expect other people to behave towards you. And sexual intimacy is definitely a major part of that as well.

D: I was just thinking that it's interesting that we're talking in this context

R: [Both laugh] I'm very conscious of the contradiction of what I've just said.